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anzac
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Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:48 pm |
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I will be expecting to hear from you that you have remit the money to him today by Western Union. |
Can anyone please tell me what, if anything Western Union and the other money transfer operatives are doing in regard to these scams? Why are no warnings issued when such amounts of money are being transferred to places well known for 419 scams? |
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Scam Patroller
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Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:50 pm |
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bill2
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Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:51 pm |
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They do in small print on a separate folder They get their commission and that's how they make a living, they provide the service only and don't want to be involved with the possible risks for paying users
Like you ISP doesn't care if you get a virus on your computer, just pay him for the service. |
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anzac
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Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:52 pm |
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But do they go the extra mile |
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anzac
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Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:58 pm |
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There are scam warning posters in Western Union offices, there are also warning leafelts, and I believe, warnings on the back of their forms.
There are also security/fraud warnings on their websites: |
so at the end of the day any one daft enough to fall for the scam in the first place aint going to be put off |
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Tsnerd
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Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:01 pm |
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so at the end of the day any one daft enough to fall for the scam in the first place aint going to be put off |
Sorry, but I don't see what else the company needs to do. Should they grill their customers at the desk before sending the wire?
At some point people need to accept personal responsibility for their actions. |
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anzac
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Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:03 pm |
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So you just let a fellow citizen jump off a tall building |
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Tsnerd
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Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:07 pm |
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That's a bit extreme, yeah?
Tell me, do you run up to people smoking cigarrettes and tell them to stop? Or lurk outside bars proclaiming warnings about liver disease? How about telling that overweight person in the fast food restaurant to get a salad?
WU and other similar organizations have posted warnings. People choose to ignore them. |
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anzac
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Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:09 pm |
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what if we just used the same energy of baiting alongside education.
or would that spoil the hobby!!!!!!!!! |
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Pastor Frank
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Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:10 pm |
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anzac wrote: |
So you just let a fellow citizen jump off a tall building |
anzac, I am curious as to what you think would be a solution to the problem. If you were in charge for one day, what safeguards would you put in place?
Edit: typo |
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Scam Patroller
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Joined: 08 Jul 2004
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Location: UK
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Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:10 pm |
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anzac wrote: |
So you just let a fellow citizen jump off a tall building |
Yes, as long as I had a poster or leaflets available to him/her, which tells about the dangers of jumping off tall buildings, just so I'm covered for any liability
anzac wrote: |
what if we just used the same energy of baiting alongside education.
or would that spoil the hobby!!!!!!!!! |
We do educate, this site educates people who come here asking if something is a scam, as do our sister sites at:
www.ScamWarners.com
www.ScamPatrol.org |
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MrMe
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Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:10 pm |
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No, but if I own a bungee jumping company and someone agrees to jump (but decides to loosen the rope despite being warned not to) its the individual's fault.
At the end of the day, WU and MG provide a service which is no doubt useful to some people. The fact that some people abuse the service is just a sad fact of life, but it doesn't mean that the company doesn't do enough. They do as much as can be reasonably expected. |
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I am almost having a bad sight as a result of click on the box
my eyes are paining me now cos i have been
looking at the computer for more than six hours
you cannot subject me to this suffering
i am sick and tired of this shit.
I don't go with this Idea at all, this is not how business is done
whenever i make mistake even at the peak of retrieving the numbers i would ask to go back to the begining and this has virtually consumed all my time by doing this
i cant stress my self any more..I now have a back pain cos of this
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anzac
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Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:13 pm |
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Tell me, do you run up to people smoking cigarrettes and tell them to stop? Or lurk outside bars proclaiming warnings about liver disease? How about telling that overweight person in the fast food restaurant to get a salad? |
The money sent to the lads is draining your economy
and the smokers and drinkers are contributing to it |
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Tsnerd
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Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:14 pm |
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Seriously, Anzac, what do you expect WU to do? What further steps should they take? It's easy to point fingers and cry foul, but far more difficult to offer workable solutions. |
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anzac
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Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:22 pm |
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We do educate, this site educates people who come here asking if something is a scam, as do our sister sites at: |
What about being more proactive
Example Shivers was on a radio station talking about the scammers
Post on your town web sites |
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Tsnerd
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Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:26 pm |
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Please show us where you have done this, Anzac.
Give us a copy of the bulletin you had posted in your local WU office, or the newspress discussing your meeting with your local LEO's.
Give us an example to follow, instead of telling us that we aren't doing enough. |
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lotta
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Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:27 pm |
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@Anzac
I think you should make it your personal mission to get Western Union to stop transferring all this money to scammers. Force them to post huge signs warning victims, and insist that they also warn people personally when attempting these transfers.
That would certainly make a huge dent in the money scammers make each year. |
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Pastor Frank
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Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:29 pm |
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I think the information about consumer fraud is quite available.
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If people refuse to read and heed the posted warnings in the WU office and on the WU forms what makes you think they will take the same warning seriously from any other source? |
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anzac
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Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:31 pm |
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Please show us where you have done this, Anzac.
Give us a copy of the bulletin you had posted in your local WU office, or the newspress discussing your meeting with your local LEO's.
Give us an example to follow, instead of telling us that we aren't doing enough. |
For every example you give i will reply
and as a good baiter i dont expect you to give out that sort of information |
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Pastor Frank
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Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:34 pm |
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*PF shakes head, mumbles to himself and slowly walks away.... |
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irishemigrant
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Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:34 pm |
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Welcome to Eater Anzac,
READ THE STICKIES/ APPLY FOR A MENTOR/ DON'T POKE STICKS AT HORNETS NESTS
Other than that, have a nice day |
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lotta
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Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:35 pm |
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Anzac,
I'm starting to think that you have no desire to bait, but rather to constantly post shite to rile the users up. What exactly are your intentions here at eater as my patience is starting to wear down? |
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Frederick Fokker:
"I am giving you about a month to get your act together, i am cutting you and the eater a bit of slack"
Dec 11, 2007
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anzac
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Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:38 pm |
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I'm starting to think that you have no desire to bait, but rather to constantly post shite to rile the users up. What exactly are your intentions here at eater as my patience is starting to wear down? |
Shite attracts |
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lotta
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Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:39 pm |
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Ok...time to say goodbye to the shite. |
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Alan James Watson (AKA Bi Gal, AKA Big Al, AKA De Master Yoda) -2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 "Doos of the year" award winner
Frederick Fokker:
"I am giving you about a month to get your act together, i am cutting you and the eater a bit of slack"
Dec 11, 2007
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Pastor Frank
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Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:39 pm |
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*PF wanders back and makes popcorn.
Dang, missed it. |
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