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MrMe
Master of Master Baiters
Joined: 09 Aug 2007
Posts: 593
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Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:29 pm |
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Hi everyone,
These past few days I've been working on a new money transfer service. Basically its a 2 pronged attack against the lads:
1) They can't withdraw any money they have been sent using it, because whatever has been sent will be a few thousand dollars less that government issued withdrawal thresholds.
2) If they try and get real victims to send money through this system to try and boost their balance above the withdrawal threshold - the victim will get a warning message telling them they are being scammed. Measures have been put in place to make it look to the scammer as if its a real payment page if he cares to have a look.
You get all the standard logging services, so you can see when your mugu logs in, and email addresses of anyone real victims he recruits into using the system aswell of logs of when they see the warning page. And if that doesn't make you want to sign up, you even get automatically generated deposit slips!!! Come on, you know you want to....
the website is: h t t p : / / e - s t e r n u n i o n . f d n s . n e t
baiter admin: add /baiter.php |
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I am almost having a bad sight as a result of click on the box
my eyes are paining me now cos i have been
looking at the computer for more than six hours
you cannot subject me to this suffering
i am sick and tired of this shit.
I don't go with this Idea at all, this is not how business is done
whenever i make mistake even at the peak of retrieving the numbers i would ask to go back to the begining and this has virtually consumed all my time by doing this
i cant stress my self any more..I now have a back pain cos of this
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dr stephen williams
Baiting Guru
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Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:05 pm |
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Hi Mr Me,
Count me in, please!
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cmorhed
Not quite a Newb
Joined: 01 Jun 2007
Posts: 27
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Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:27 pm |
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I'll give it a try. |
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magildo
Master Baiter
Joined: 07 Mar 2007
Posts: 178
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Thu Nov 15, 2007 3:19 am |
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I'll give it a try, too. |
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harrya
Elite Baiter
Joined: 23 Jul 2006
Posts: 1489
Location: Not Happy
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Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:07 am |
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I have just the lad |
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edjones
Hello I'm New here!
Joined: 10 Nov 2007
Posts: 2
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Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:29 am |
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Yastreb
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Joined: 04 Apr 2006
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Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:44 am |
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Count me in... I have sone Lads who are tailor-made for it. |
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Seven of Nine
Baiting Guru
Joined: 18 Jun 2006
Posts: 2147
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Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:49 am |
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@MrMe I'd love to have a look and perhaps try it on a lad or two. Westan Onion have banned my characters from using their services and MoneyGrab is likely to follow suit |
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windypops
Baiting Guru
Joined: 25 Jan 2005
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Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:26 am |
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If you have room for one more, you can count me in MrMe |
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wingman
Master Baiter
Joined: 31 Oct 2007
Posts: 156
Location: State of Confusion, USA
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Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:31 am |
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Pick me! Pick me! |
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HitchHiker
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Joined: 12 Jan 2007
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Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:07 pm |
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sounds like just what I need.
If you're still looking for testers, count me in. |
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bunnyrabbit
lost in translation
Joined: 08 Aug 2007
Posts: 531
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Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:29 pm |
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Me too! |
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luckey
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Joined: 25 Jan 2007
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Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:41 pm |
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This sounds like a very interesting idea. I'd love to give it a try.
MrMe wrote: |
2) If they try and get real victims to send money through this system to try and boost their balance above the withdrawal threshold - the victim will get a warning message telling them they are being scammed. Measures have been put in place to make it look to the scammer as if its a real payment page if he cares to have a look. |
Do you have anything that can detect if the scammer himself, or another lad is trying to pay in? Lads often work in gangs, and I wouldn't be surprised if they turn to one of their bosses or mates for help. They might not be resistant to doing that if they believe they can instantly get their money back out. Is it possible to block the IP of the intended recipient? It would be a shame if the lad or one of his crew got a warning.
Regarding the warning that gets sent out, if you are inexperienced in sending out warnings, you might want to try to work with someone who is. If a warning goes out to a victim who is in deep, they will probably have a lot of questions and will need some follow-up support. You could provide a link to Scamwarners.com as a place to turn, but that may not be immediate enough for many real victims. Perhaps you should PM a mod to see if they can provide some guidance here. I believe some of them are knowledgeable in this area. |
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Scam Patroller
Baiting Guru
Joined: 08 Jul 2004
Posts: 11857
Location: UK
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Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:23 pm |
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@ MrMe, as Luckey, says above, if you find a real victim being abused by a lad via the use of this tool, please feel free to pass the victims details to me or another mod via PM, we will then get a fully qualified scam warning sent to them through Scam Warners, and also provide support should the victim have any further questions relating to the scam. |
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dr stephen williams
Baiting Guru
Joined: 06 Aug 2007
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Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:05 pm |
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My lad is too lazy for this , he wouldn't answer the ITV5, now he has balked on this, too. However, the sunny side of this street is he has decided to send me bank account info , which will go to Alan!
Other lads, though, wwould be perfect...
It really is a nice modality, MrMe! |
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LaBrea
Elite Baiter
Joined: 04 Aug 2007
Posts: 1355
Location: Yet another hotel
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Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:31 pm |
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I don't think you'd actually have a lad paying his own money into the account; it would be with a stolen credit card or the actual victim making the deposit.
If its the lad with a stolen card, he'll get the warning.
It may be more effective to supply the lad with a "secret password" that "gives him a discount" on transaction fees, so if a person pays using the secret word, the auto-mailed warning does NOT go out.....
I have a Check Lad who wants me to set up an AlertPay account to do the same thing.
This guy steals UPS account numbers, bank account numbers, and now I think he's going after (other people's) credit card numbers to fund the Alertpay account.
I can see it happening in this case too. |
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MrMe
Master of Master Baiters
Joined: 09 Aug 2007
Posts: 593
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Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:44 pm |
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ok, i'll be sending info to everyone whos shown interest shortly. Just to carify a few things. Yes - IP blocking is one method being used to keep the lads of the scent. The benefit of that, is that assuming most of these lads are working from within an internet cafe - it'll block every other computer in the cafe from seeing the warning too.
One thing I should make clear is that the warning IS NOT mailed to the victim. This is to prevent the lad seeing the warning. If I mail it out, theres no way I can control who sees what. The warning is only seen by the victim when they click on the link provided by the lad. If the lad clicks on the link - then they'll see the fake payment page.
Another thing I should add is that please can you make the threshold a couple of thousand dollars over the amount in his account - this should prevent the mugus trying to get other gang-friends to add funds - unless of course they're very rich.
A sample warning can be seen here: http://tinyurl.com/3dyhad
if anyone has any suggestions/comments/complaints please to say.
@ScamPatroller - certainly if thats what you want - but for the reasons I have described - its much more likely to be seen by the mugu if its mailed out than if they visit the site to see it. In the end the likelihood of a real victim clicking the link and seeing the warning is quite high if they're being pushed to by the mugu. |
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I am almost having a bad sight as a result of click on the box
my eyes are paining me now cos i have been
looking at the computer for more than six hours
you cannot subject me to this suffering
i am sick and tired of this shit.
I don't go with this Idea at all, this is not how business is done
whenever i make mistake even at the peak of retrieving the numbers i would ask to go back to the begining and this has virtually consumed all my time by doing this
i cant stress my self any more..I now have a back pain cos of this
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luckey
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Joined: 25 Jan 2007
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Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:04 pm |
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In the end the likelihood of a real victim clicking the link and seeing the warning is quite high if they're being pushed to by the mugu. |
I tend to agree. I think this could potentially be a good tool for finding real vics that our lads are trying to scam. If a qualified warner could reach out to them, the chances of persuading a vic that they are involved in a scam may be much higher than if they were simply flashed a warning. From what I've read, once some victims are under the spell, it can be difficult to convince them otherwise.
Not that automatically sending out a warning to anyone who attempts to use the site with a different IP is the answer either. Perhaps it is enough to collect as much personal information as possible: IP, name, address, phone number, email address. Then the user could be researched, and a qualified warner could get involved. This might help filter out baiters and lads alike.
Edit to add:
Another advantage to an approach like that is that you'd have a better chance of disassociating warnings from your site. Maybe after logging in with personal information, the potential victim can simply get a message like, "Due to routine server maintenance, your transaction cannot be processed at this time. Please try your transaction again in 24 hours."
Regarding your sample warning page:
I have little to base this on, but if a real victim sincerely believes they are just one more payment away from millions of dollars, and they ran across something like that, a large percentage would run right back to the mugu and ask what is going on. That would be an instant twig for any bait.
I don't mean to sound critical. I think this is an excellent idea. I just think it is sensible to tread carefully when it comes to real victims. |
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Cachuma
Baiting Guru
Joined: 04 May 2007
Posts: 2284
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Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:32 pm |
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I'm just getting back into baiting after taking a few months off, so my baits are all in the early stage right now. However, I'd really love to use this tool! Can you send me the info too? |
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MrMe
Master of Master Baiters
Joined: 09 Aug 2007
Posts: 593
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Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:27 pm |
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@Luckey: Good idea. I'll try and implement that now.
@Cachuma: Sure, i'll send the info in a bit. |
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I am almost having a bad sight as a result of click on the box
my eyes are paining me now cos i have been
looking at the computer for more than six hours
you cannot subject me to this suffering
i am sick and tired of this shit.
I don't go with this Idea at all, this is not how business is done
whenever i make mistake even at the peak of retrieving the numbers i would ask to go back to the begining and this has virtually consumed all my time by doing this
i cant stress my self any more..I now have a back pain cos of this
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William Wankur
Master Baiter
Joined: 24 Oct 2007
Posts: 207
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Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:34 am |
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I'd love to join in if you have room for one more. I have a few lads that I'm running out of ways to torture.
There's one in particular that's been resistant to 1tv$ etc, but he's been hanging on for a month now. |
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writeon
Master of Master Baiters
Joined: 16 Mar 2007
Posts: 986
Location: SATA
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Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:53 am |
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@Mr Me I have a lad on safari at the moment and he is asking for money so I would to join in if it's not too late. |
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luckey
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Fri Nov 16, 2007 2:22 pm |
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@MrMe:
I've sent this out to a lad to test it out. I'm looking forward to seeing how it goes.
Another thought: This also might be a great way to harvest scammer bank account details. If you require them to register a bank account so they will have a means of transferring their money out of the account they set-up, we could collect the details and send them to Alan, along with sufficient scam email back-up evidence for killing. |
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LaBrea
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Joined: 04 Aug 2007
Posts: 1355
Location: Yet another hotel
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Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:34 pm |
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I'm testing this with my own accounts. I seem to have a problem receiving the confirmation email to my yahoo acct. |
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Pyrosoft
419Eater is my life
Joined: 15 Jun 2006
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Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:02 pm |
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After much too-and-froing this is the response from my lad who I put through the site.
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Hello Wilson,
Please take your money to your account and forget all.am tired of all this shit.
Dr.Wilson
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He is far too lazy for his own good. |
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